13-year-old Fallbrook boy remains in critical condition after being shot in Vista

The 13-year-old Fallbrook boy who was shot in a gang-related altercation March 31 in Vista, remains in critical but stable condition in an area hospital, said Vista detective Joe Ellis said on Wednesday.

Local law enforcement officials say gang tension has been evident recently between Vista and Fallbrook, but say these incidents appear to be deliberate acts of targeted aggression.

Lt. Pete Callewaert of the Vista Sheriff’s station says that’s what happened on March 31 to the 13-year old who was accompanied by his older brother and cousin.

“These kids went into [this] neighborhood looking for a dispute,” says Callewaert. “If [suspected gang members] want to drive into the geographical area where numerous rival gang members live, they’re looking for trouble.”

“This 13-year-old came with his friends and family looking for trouble,” says Callewaert. “I’m not condoning it; that’s just what happened.”

The area the incident happened is known as the Townside area of Vista, which is near but not on the property where the large Krikorian movie complex and a host of restaurants and shops are located.

As a result, many Village News readers have enquired as to how safe that particular complex is.

“It’s considered a safe environment for youth and young adults, but, just like any other place, parents should take some responsibility for their child’s behavior, that is not just drop them off and drive away; they need guidelines,” says

Callewaert. “My own kids go there a lot. It’s a great place for a movie, meal, coffee, or ice cream.” But Callewaert admits at times there are a lot of youth on the property.

“As is typical, certain nights of the week there is an overabundance of young people and that’s why we have officers nearby,” he says.

The Townside area, Callewaert says is best described by the following boundaries: the southern boundary is Vista Village Dirve/Vista Way and Olive; the northern boundary is Bobier Drive; and the area runs east and west of North Santa Fe.

“It is the north central portion of Vista,” Callewaert says. “The Krikorian complex is not in the Townside area; it is south of it, but only by a few blocks.”


13-year-old Fallbrook boy in critical but stable condition after Vista shooting

Andrea Verdin

Staff Writer

A 13-year-old Fallbrook boy is at Rady Children’s Hospital in critical but stable condition after he was shot in the head and leg by suspected Vista gang members.

According to Vista Sheriff’s detective and North County Gang Task Force (NCGTF) member Joe Ellis, the 13-year-old victim, along with his older brother and cousin, both believed to be between the ages of 18 and 20, all residents of Fallbrook, were reportedly on their way to the Krikorian Movie Complex in Vista at approximately 9 p.m. Wednesday, March 31, when the incident occurred. Near the movie complex, the trio “entered a confrontation” with a larger group of individuals, and shots were fired, said Ellis.

“The shooting did not happen in the movie complex,” clarified Ellis. “The incident occurred in the Townside area [near Vista Way], which is known for Vista gang activity and within the gang injunction safe zone.”

The victim was shot with what was “possibly a shotgun” from a distance “no less than 10 feet,” said Ellis. He was hit once in the leg and once in the head.

“If [the shooting] had been from point blank, the victim would be dead,” said Ellis.

According to the brother and cousin of the victim a “Good Samaritan” drove them to a nearby hospital. Currently, there are no suspects in the case, said Ellis.

“Several witnesses were around, and we are still trying to figure out what happened,” said Ellis.

The NCGTF initially believed the incident was gang-related.

“When beginning the investigation, we thought the shooting was part of a retaliation of [the stabbing and assault] that happened in Fallbrook on Monday, March 29,” said Ellis. “Other than the fact that the victims were from Fallbrook, we have yet to find any links between the Fallbrook street gang and the victims in this incident. However, the situation does seem gang related; anyone who is not a gang member would not have gotten into a confrontation with gang members.”

The case is currently under investigation by Vista Sheriff’s detectives. Anyone with information pertaining to the incident is asked to call detectives Joe Ellis or Roy Mayne at (760) 940-4551.

246 Responses to "13-year-old Fallbrook boy remains in critical condition after being shot in Vista"

  1. Fallbrook Res   April 2, 2010 at 10:25 am


    NOT sometimes all the time.

  2. SOB   April 2, 2010 at 10:35 am

    "anyone who is not a gang member would not have gotten into a confrontation with gang members" … Not true at all!!!! Just to be a stranger in a town is reason enough for gang members to confront you… Nowadays gang members don’t always look like the stereotypical "Homie" and any teen can be a target…

  3. Ray (the real one)   April 2, 2010 at 10:41 am

    I told you folks… I told you folks… I told you folks… Deaf ears. A thirteen year old boy most likely will die, shot by hispanic gang members. It’s not about race or ethnic makeup huh? Tell that to Rachel M. Folks… Hispanics ARE the gangs in North County, face it.

  4. Ray (the real one)   April 2, 2010 at 11:02 am

    The Townsite area of vista is known as the Vista Chapter of the VFW, "very few whites". Just driving or even walking down there you take your life into your hands. I used to do security for an apartment complex, always carried my pistol. This area is 98% hispanic and mostly gang infested. It’s so bad the SDSO rents vacant homes and turns them into "mini sub stations". Remember a few years back the SDSO had a few incidents there, peed off the Hispanic community, GEEZ I though arresting gang members was the right thing to do unless your brown and on the receiving end. This is a good example what Fallbrook will turn into if the community does not get tough and take their streets back, but I’ve said this numerous times before, nobody seems to listen.

  5. taco bender   April 2, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Look over in the right column, there you see one of the highest commented on opinion articles titled "gang sweeps" The problem is multi-faceted, poverty, youth peer pressure, police, immigration, legal or otherwise, cops spent a couple hundred thousand extra bucks last sweep to no avail. Police are overpaid with bonus pay, pension plans, top equipment, state of the art communications ,data base technology, on and on . I just ask them to give me my town back. Do what you took the oath to do serve and protect.. We are a nation of laws….start enforcing them… anyone with half a brain knows it’s about turf… my turf, your turf our turf there’s not a banger out there that contributes one penny to society in fact… they cost

  6. Donna   April 2, 2010 at 11:24 am

    I want to know what a 13 year old is doing out at 9pm at night on a school night. Should be either fast asleep or at home studying so he or she will actually have some intelligence and not be a part of gangs. Also….GANG SWEEPS!! We know where they live and play. Lets get rid of this disease!!!

  7. Donna   April 2, 2010 at 11:38 am

    Sorry about the double click

  8. Ray (the real one)   April 2, 2010 at 11:39 am

    taco bender: Actually the highest commented article was Favela and his so-called human rights group which was a smoke screen for banger rights. But it suddenly vanished. Last count, close to 300 responses.

  9. PJ Stewart   April 2, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    I was attacked in Fallbrook a few years ago by apparent gang members, and the sheriff’s stated that we should have gotten out of their way. (We were on main street, smiling and happy.)
    The "war on drugs" cost us 500 billion per year. That is money we can no longer throw away!
    It is about drugs and if we simply look at bootlegging we’d understand that prohibition does not work. Lets fix our budget here in California and the easy fix is to make drugs legal and to tax them. IRS is much better at dealing with these people then the local police or sheriff’s. Stop band-aiding the problem, fix it!

  10. soa   April 2, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    ” Ray…lol ur like a leech! stuck everywhere

  11. missy   April 2, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Ray why your judging so early it doesnt said what race it was ,so how the ***k you gonna said they were hispanics can you just wait until they comfirm you Mr.hispanicjudger!!!

  12. Ray (the real one)   April 2, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    Did I judge the child? I don’t think so. I judged the area he or she was in and if you knew the are, it’s a no brainer. Maybe you should tune into MSNBC, their facts might be more to your liking.

  13. Ray (the real one)   April 2, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    SOA: Dig a hole and bury your head. Seems reading is not your fort’e

  14. Ray (the real one)   April 2, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    PJ: I remember. They never caught the 300 pound hispanic gang member. Keep the failth.

  15. jdjs   April 2, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    "anyone who is not a gang member would not have gotten into a confrontation with gang members." BS. my friends and i were confronted while getting food at taco bell. nobody i was with had any connection to any gang. they sent 3 of my friends to the hospital because we didn’t have drugs or money.

  16. Ray (the real one)   April 2, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    All these news reports of the violence and deaths in Mexico, nothing new. It’s been happening in the US for the last (20) years and nobody reports it. Tell me something I don’t know NBC.

  17. Proud to be Mexican-American   April 2, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Ray don’t put all the Hispanics into one category! I was born in Mexico, but raised in the US. I am US Citizen and college educated. With your comments you only demonstrate the ignorance and hatred that you have towards Hispanics. Maybe you should stop watching Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. By the way, you should probably go to Costa Rica with Rush Limbaugh. Think before you write, otherwise, don’t write anything!

  18. Ray (the real one)   April 2, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    jdjs: Ever spend time in the Townsite area of Vista? all you need is "brown skin" even if your not in a gang and you dodge bullets. Be for real.

  19. Fallbrook Res   April 2, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    North County Gang Task Force (NCGTF)

    Time to make them proactive vs reactive,no matter who you are in this debate lets demand more gangsweeps from them.
    How? Call the substation, call the task force
    it will take alot of calls to make them do gangsweep on a regulare bases. Its worth the effort.

  20. Fed Up   April 2, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    I agree with Donna. These "bangers" are a DISEASE and need to be treated as such. Just like termites! Same goes for the communist A.C.L.U. lawyers who rush to their aid! For over 50 years, liberal lawyers, politicians, and the courts have had an incestuous vicarious love affair with ALL criminal elements!

  21. Dork   April 2, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    As far as the kid getting shot I hope he is alright. As for a comment why is he out at nine on a school night well I have an answer for that. He was out with family I took my cousins out past nine for what to kick it go see a movie go shoot sk8 spots or even just going to eat. For every one getting angry it is what it is. It does not mean if you do “gang sweeps” it will help this problem. The gangs will just get smarter change locations were they live disperse to all over sd count and la county. you cant stop it, it will just continue to grow no mater what. It may slow it down but it wont get rid of it. Also the hardest part is trying to take back the streets. I think more and more fights will break out cause of it. In closing just be safe and watch out. (not a threat) (spelling bad i know).

  22. SOB   April 2, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Easy folks… Ray loves to come in here and group all hispanics into one category to p*** people off… its his specialty.. seems that he has nothing better to do… especially since he no longer lives in Fallbrook….

    Dork: sorry but I do think that gang sweeps are very effective.. .take em all out and you are left with the low level wannabe’s and they won’t do much…

  23. unknow   April 2, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    As far as i know people shouldn’t be sayin s*** at all. Feel the pain of his mother and the rest of his family and the homies!! If you people don’t have nothing nice to say don’t say s*** at all!! Love and respect to him!!
    And hopefully he makes it!!

  24. frank   April 2, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    The gangs should be exterminated. They are nothing less than home grown terrorists. Eradicate ’em as any other plague.
    I don’t care whatever their ethnicity is.
    They want to play was games. They should collect them and ship them to Iraq or Afganistan, see how brave they are.

  25. unknow   April 2, 2010 at 5:43 pm


  26. Red   April 3, 2010 at 8:07 am

    My heart goes out to the family of this young man. Granted he should have been at home. But I see all kinds of young people out and about till 11pm and later. Scary.
    And Rob, being you do not live here now days, what are you complaining about. You took the easy way out and left. A town will not be strong if the residents run like scared rabbits.
    By the way Happy Easter and God Bless Us Everyone.

  27. Yo Bro   April 3, 2010 at 8:08 am

    VFW no mo.

  28. Yo Bro   April 3, 2010 at 8:08 am

    Exterminate ’em.

  29. SICOFITALL   April 3, 2010 at 8:09 am


  30. resident   April 3, 2010 at 8:13 am

    Ok, I am not a fan of Vista because of the gang problems, but my kids go to the Krikorian all the time. Someone tell me where "the Townside area [near Vista Way]" is. I need to be able to keep my family away from there.

    As for the commenter who said only gang members confront other gang members. That is garbage. I got confronted inside Albertsons in Fallbrook by a bunch of girls wearing all red. I was told later on that they were Crips or Bloods?? I was standing there minding my own business, but one of them thought I looked at her funny and got in my face. So, it can happen to anyone.

  31. Alyssa   April 3, 2010 at 8:13 am

    Makes me glad to be old!!! I live in Fallbrook. Where should I NOT go??? Where are the gangs hanging out? Should I move???

  32. Ray (the real one)   April 3, 2010 at 8:14 am

    SOB: Just because I don’t live there does not mean I might work there or have a business. My LEGAL address is still Fallbrook, so pipe and smoke it.

  33. Pessimistic   April 3, 2010 at 8:14 am

    …and the truth be told – not every person of Hispanic decent is illegal or a gang member.

  34. BROOKTOWN   April 3, 2010 at 8:16 am

    #23 and25 – im not gonna feel any of his pain cuz im not a stupid wannabe vfl or what ever it is u guys call urself these days if he isnt a banger then i hope he gets better otherwise when u play with the bull u get the horns so if u dont want trouble dont go looking for it

  35. Ray (the real one)   April 3, 2010 at 8:17 am

    Proud to be Mexican-American: Just telling the truth, prove me wrong.

  36. Pessimistic   April 3, 2010 at 8:19 am

    Terrible, terrible, terrible… yes, let’s pray for this boy. What a shame; and cowardly act no less!

    Gang sweeps are good, but by no means the end all. What good does it do when some of them get swept up, but the D.A. boots them back out on to the streets? Happens all the time people! Your wonderful legislatures recently passed regulations to reduce the prison and jail populations, without the ones incarcerated completing the sentences they had handed down to them. THOUSANDS of them! And THOUSANDS more having their parole made NON-REVOCABLE! That means they can not be violated for breaking conditions of their release. I find this extremely frustrating and it angers me! Has evertones heads been that buried in the hole of darkness recently? You need to focus some of your frustrations on those liberal pukes, not just on law enforcement who some of you perceive as not living up to your standards.

    And last, but not least, I must comment on the resurrected 6’4″ 300 pound Mexican domestic terrorist from last year: with all the media attention in this town over that attack, specifically on this site, has ANYONE ever seen this guy and called it in? Then again, someone can claim they have with no proof – so I may be asking a stupid question. I can “honestly” say that I have not seen this goliath wandering around town. Maybe this piece of garbage wasn’t even from here, was visiting relatives or was transient at the time and fled after doing what he did. We don’t know, do we? I would think the victims of that would be able to spot the guy, or was it so traumatizing (even a year later) that he/she is a recluse and never ventures into town? Just asking…

  37. ra-lo   April 3, 2010 at 8:30 am

    I have lived in fallbrook my entire life and the facts are that hispanic youths think the thug life is the way. Parents keep good eyes on your children, go to temecula for the movies.

  38. a Fallbrook parent   April 3, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    To Donna, it was not a school night. Fallbrook went on spring break last Thursday. Don’t be so judgemental.

  39. ???   April 3, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    I have Faith he will be alright …stay strong g

  40. fed-up   April 3, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    It is time to make a 2 strike law. Give a banger 1 chance to shape up because strike 2 is a free pass to Afganistan and
    don’t put em at the back of the line. They can be first in line,
    the front lines. In fact give’m prefered status of mine sweepers
    or decoys. They can write as much graffeti on the rocks as they want it will just like home, just that no one over there
    will understand it. Kinda like here we don’t understand why they deface a town they want to live in- I guess they are like dogs that mark thier spots or turf.

  41. Fallbrook Res   April 3, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    Have YOU called?

  42. unknown 86   April 3, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    ray(the real one) my … probably the fake one shut the … up before i shove my foot ……… u ppl dont know …. so shut the ….. up. stop judgin ppl think of all the pain his family is goin through instead of runnin ur mouths u should prayin hoppin this boy will get better

  43. Frosty   April 3, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    I am amazed that so many people get so up at arms about 8 crazy hill-billies with a " plot to overthrow the government", yet say absolutely nothing when huge organized well-armed gangs are killing American citizens everyday ! Where is the FBI and the news media? I’ve seen the Hutari on the news for 5 nights now.

  44. John Lennon>>says   April 3, 2010 at 3:06 pm


  45. TEDDY   April 3, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    I agree with maya, she makes a lot of sense, think about it everyone. parent’s need to start diciplining their children before they become teenagers. this has been said in school & by the police, pay attention to your kids, know what they’re doing! u bunch of burros! (donkeys) get off the couch, quit watching tv & get off ur phones. u had the kids, educate them. we need to get rid of this idea of others watching latinos killing each other! happy easter & continue to pray for these youngsters that need continuous guidance.

  46. MAYA   April 3, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    hi everybody! i’m from la puente, ca. for those of you that don’t know la puente cuz u live in the boonies of fallbrook & vista don’t talk about gangs cuz u guys have no clue how the gangs operate. crips & bloods aren’t latinos, they’re blacks & wtf is hispanic?, there is no hispania!, so get that out of your heads! its LATINO, LATIN AMERICA so everybody is latin or latinos. the gangs over here can’t compare to the gangs in los angeles. over here in the boonies they’re just a bunch of kids that wannabee gangsters & PARENTS, pay attention to your kids, WAKE UP! It’s ur fault ur kids are out there causing problems cuz you don’t have the f………….. b…..to control them.

  47. spicoli   April 3, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    There is no room in this country for hyphenated americans. Teddy Roosevelt said that. Tolerance is the last virute of a dying society. Aristotle said that one.
    Unfortunatlely they are both true. I am a parent and sick of all this violence. You look like a gang member, you get frisked. Period. Call it what you want, but if it saves lives then we must accept it.

  48. ur enemie   April 3, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    u knoe wat all u hating it wasnt his fault nobody knew this was gnna happen but pay backs is a b…..! and let me tell u sumthing ray (the real one) i mean the fake one.. u should shut ur hatin mouth and if u were a hispanic u wouldnt want them white ppl talkin smack on u becuz of ur race alright and before u start point fingers make sure ur hands r clean and then say watever u want u ……. ingnorance ….. get a life have family feel the pain his family is goin thru alright so stop talkin …. and u wont get haters but! lets pray for that li homie and hope that he is alright keep heads up and heads up and think positive he will be ok he is strong!!! love and respect for the young man and ppl stop talking….

  49. resident   April 3, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    Ray, since you say you know and no one else seems to, where "the Townside area [near Vista Way]"?

  50. Fed Up   April 3, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    TO: No. #44 John Lennon was a genetic defect coward piece of possum excrement as well as a drug addict scum! Good riddance to him and his septic tank music ! Give Genocide a Chance! Annihilation is a time tested proven method that works every time!

  51. rossman   April 3, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    I agree about legalizing drugs and taxing them.
    The only way to get rid of gangs, whether they be huge drug cartels or misgueded youths, is to take thier power away (money). Gangs wouldnt survive without money and they get their money from drugs and trafficing.

  52. Juan   April 3, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    So much hate!!! Look folks, we know it was latino gang members. So stop kidding yourselves that it was anything other.
    Gangs have been around for a long, long time. The violence is escalates when one gang invades the others "territory".
    If you’re going to belong to a gang and travel outside of your turf, you’re looking for trouble.
    If a gang member doesn’t want trouble, don’t wear your colors, don’t maddog and don’t put up signs. Better yet, stay home. Subscribe to Netflix.
    To the police. Try doing your job.

  53. wildheart   April 3, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    Village News — Can you get us an update on this story, including how the boy who was shot is doing? He and his family are in my prayers. Was this connected to the gang violence that’s been going on here recently? Thank you for keeping us informed on what is happening.

  54. taco bender   April 4, 2010 at 7:49 am

    #52 tells it like it is. So does Maya # 46 weed out the shot callers, read my #5 post. Spray paint turns to guns. If a beat cop is making 100 K a year..plus benefits…. earn it. Forget about who stole the bronze art from downtown, who stole our town? You have the power to enforce, I know , the courts just spit em’ back out, cuff them up again and again and again then hold their families financially liable and forget about that bonus gang task force fund , you are the biggest, best funded, best equipped, best trained gang there is … show it .. that’s in the oath serve and protect.. I’d be ashamed of my badge if these little bangers made me look this inept, Baney Fyfish, foolish, powerless, overpaid , and playing the blame game of "our hands are tied"… they arn’t tied when you endorse your paycheck

  55. unknown   April 4, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    listen maya u dont know …. dont be runnig ur mouth his parents do pay attention to him so if u and he didnt cause the problem the other fools did but pay back is a ….. much love and respect to the homie

  56. MAYA   April 4, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    #54, this isn’t about weeding the shot callers. read my message again. this is about putting the blame where it should be, Parent’s need to have the balls to control their kids early in age & #52 is condoling what i just said is part of the problem, instead of subscrbing to netflix subscribe to the guidance of your childrens education. the time you put into your children is how much you value them because one thing for sure is gangs have been around forever & will never cease!

  57. Fallbrook Res   April 4, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    POST 54
    That was the best read in a long time, YOU got IT RIGHT
    Taco Bender.

    Have you called For GangSwEEPS?

  58. pde   April 4, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    D… i hope the lil homie gets better…stay strong g

  59. newbie   April 4, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    I just moved to Fallbrook from Prince Georges County, Maryland (just east of Washington DC, google crime rates for those areas – highest crime and murder rates in the country!). I thought I was getting away from "gangland", I guess not… It is true what some of you are saying though – its the residents that have to take their neighborhoods and towns back. Just one small example, we used a simple law saying that the landlord had to have a permit for a house to be rented to more than one family, and our neighborhood wasn’t zoned for that, so we got everyone in the house next door to us kicked out. We knew they were dealing drugs, but we couldn’t prove it, so we got rid of them another way. Get creative, take action, don’t just sit around and talk about how bad things are. Don’t know about the police here, but back there the police would act if they had something to act on – they have to stay within the law, they can’t just arrest someone because their next door neighbor says they are dealing drugs. Maybe Fallbrook should have curfews for younger folks, loitering laws, and limits on how many people can occupy a dwelling. Things like that are easily enforceable and helpful in getting rid of the "element", whatever race they may be, or whatever gang they may be a member of. Another, larger example, is that of Oklahoma City (I am from OK originally). There they developed all of the gang-ridden areas into tourist areas. It’s called Bricktown now and it used to be where all the gangs were. They also condemned much of the housing that the gangs were living in and tore it down and developers built housing that the gang members couldn’t afford! It’s like a nuisance animal you want to get rid of – you can try to exterminate them, but it also helps to just take away their habitat!

  60. Gangs Suck   April 4, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    Good call newbie…take away their habitat. Smoke ’em out and send them packing…back to wherever they’re from.

  61. udhusdhjskdh   April 5, 2010 at 10:55 am

    u ppl should really stop talkin s*** and for dose of u who arent thnx becuz u guys actually know how life actually is… and dis boy was really close freind of mine and i know he didnt deserve dis hes life waas just starting,,, u ray or watever ur name is ur racist pece of S*** and u really dont kno wat his famiy is goin tru and u never will cuz u have no feelings..& all u ppl askin wat was he doin out late it relly dont matter cuz our spring break started so u guys shouldnt be worrin bout y he was out late and worry if hes ok or not… and just sayin all da gang bangers as u guys say arent just hispanic, mexican, latinos or latin americans des alot of white ppl dat r in it too just dat der wannabees and dey consider demselfs latinos so u guys consider dem dat too… and nothin is gonna be good again if they do gang sweeps cuz if dey do dat like one of guys said der gonna find new places and its just gonna get worse…i really hope dat dey found whoever shot him nd he goes to jail for da rest of his life!!!! i hope he gets better and i ask for all da ppl who r actually consideret to please pray for him so he will hopefully get better thnx hes always in my heart and in my prayers

  62. usmcret   April 5, 2010 at 10:55 am

    #59 – All excellent suggestions – hope to hear you at the next Fallbrook Citizen Crime Prevention meeting.

  63. Fallbrook resident   April 5, 2010 at 10:56 am

    What is the limit on how many people in an apartment, and also in a house, anyone know?

    I need to brush up on all zoning laws and do something.

    The rentals in my area are over occupied and getting trashed because so many people live in them.

  64. The Dude   April 5, 2010 at 10:56 am

    PS Newbie – take every trailer park in PG Co., put twice as many occupants in them, leave one for seniors, put them all in the same small town and you have Fallbrook.

  65. The Dude   April 5, 2010 at 10:57 am

    newbie – Landover? Bowie? Laurel? Does the strip of Mission between Fallbrook Street and Ammunition remind you of the Route One Flea Market deadly game of human frogger?

  66. MOUSE   April 5, 2010 at 11:05 am


  67. Pessimistic   April 5, 2010 at 11:12 am

    Hey taco bender, are you going to support those cops with your money and mouth when they step across the line of "civil rights" and start cracking some gang members skulls? You act like they have martial law on their side, where everything goes and the rules of law can be trampled. It’s unfortunate, but true, that they have restrictive guidlines to abide by – most likely to prevent the rest of us from being abused. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, so to say. I wish they had the power to just crack them skulls, search with impunity and arrest without casue on these types of people, too, but then that would leave the rest of us vulnerable. I’m torn on that one.

    And if you have proof they make 100k a year PLUS benefits then please provide a link for confirmation. I, in the mean time, will be doing my own research on that issue. I think you are blowing smoke and just trying to stir the pot.

  68. 1234   April 5, 2010 at 11:27 am

    Mouse i totally agree wit you dats true all u ppl talkin **** should relly stop cuz hes like my brother too and yeah all u ppl sayin his mom doesnt pay attention to him u shouldnt be sayin nothin cuz u dont know their life and i know his mom does pay attention to him so all of you should realy stop ur s***!!! i love u baby dont forget we need yu wat would dis world be without u… it wouldnt be worth s*** get well soon i love you

  69. Fallbrook Res   April 5, 2010 at 11:53 am

    Have you called today for routine GangSweeps?

  70. Pessimistic   April 5, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    Her you go taco bender: http://dsasd.org/pdf/DSPayScale.pdf

    That didn’t take me but a few clicks of the mouse. Looks like you were being a “bender” of the truth. Appears that Lieutenants are making that 100k PLUS benefits. Have you ever run across a Lieutenant working the streets? I can’t say I have, not that I have had to many recent run-ins with the cops. Must be nothing but Lieutenants patrolling our war ravaged, gang ridden streets here in the Brook. As Lieutenants they must be pretty darn savvy veterans, too! I’d call the station and tell the one bar running the show to force all those other one bars to get their acts together!

    Also, isn’t it nice to see some of our local gang members and/or friends are computer literate?! Plenty of postings. I know I’m impressed! Now, on the other hand, their grammar, spelling and punctuation is something less than to be desired – but I suppose we can blame the public school system for that, right? Or, do we want to blame their respective parent(s) just like the choices they make when away from home?

    I personally, will continue to pray for this boy AND their parents.

    I’m so pessimistic! I’ve been called cynical, too. LOL

  71. The Element   April 5, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Mouse, 1234, unkown, and the other guy udhusdhjskdh. You are right, we (most of us) do not know this kid, nor do we know what is going on in his life or his homestead. With that, you have to admitt, that something happened to bring what happened to him to this point. I have kids, and they go to Vista and Bonsall and Oceanside all the time, and they never got shot, never got bothered, never got the "Where you from Homie" from anyone, and they are Mexican. It seems that since he was with olders family members that maybe they started or where involved with something that drew him in to this, and to look cool, get credit, or just plan stupidity got what happenedto him. As far as his mother, again your right, I for one don’t know her, nor her parenting skills, but what I will tell you is that you don’t let your kid(s) go out with people that will put your child(ren) in danger. This may be a mistake on my part, but like I said, somehow this happened and I am pretty sure that something from one or all three of these people caused this to happen. I am sure they were not just going to see "how to train your dragon" and bam got shot. There is always an underlying condition. Now with that being said, I invite you to explain your side of the story, maybe we are all wrong and they just happend to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, I don’t know, he is your Homie, you set the record straight. Just try to use regular English, not text-English.

  72. mmm   April 5, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    the element ok so ur kids go der all da time so wat maybe ur kids r not like dem so u really dont now wat ur talkin bout and yeah maybe the ppl he was wit were bad maybe dey werent well actually i shouldnt even say he was cuz i know he wasnt… and his mom didnt let him go anywere wit ppl she would think wuld put him in danger cuz dats his brother and his cousin so im sure his mom wouldnt think dey would put him in danger and yeah just tellin u dey were at wrong place at da wring time! and no none of dose three ppl caused it to happen and defintly not da boy who got shot

  73. ????????????   April 5, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    all u ppl talking ****just shut the **** up cuz u guys r just **** talkers ……..u guys dnt noe wat his family is going through…..and hope to god he is okay …

  74. ..........   April 5, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    u ppl dont know **** u dont know how this happened and i agree with mouse and with 1234 his mom does care about him shes wit him in the hospital at all times this boy is like a brother to me so all u stupid *** ppl who dont know *** shut the **** before i shove my foot up ur *** i hope he gets better cuase we all need u

  75. wildheart   April 5, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    Can anyone give us an update of how the boy who got shot is doing? There are many of us who would like to know. Hopefully he is getting better.

  76. Erica   April 5, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Wow Ray the real one. You are a mean person that needs to get a life. Dont they have any extra activities you can get involved in at Silvergate? Maybe you should find a girlfriend. If anyone can stand you. Youre poor mother where did she go wrong?

  77. martinez high school student   April 5, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    i am very sorry what happen to this boy hes my and my lil bros friend

  78. wildheart   April 6, 2010 at 7:33 am

    Martinez High School Student: Can you share with us how your friend is doing now? Is he getting better? What exactly happened that you might know of? He, his family, and friends are in our prayers. Peace.

  79. Juan   April 6, 2010 at 7:33 am

    More often, than not, gang members know their "turf". If these kids were gang members and went to Vista knowing they could put themselves in harms way, then probably the group from Fallbrook were in Vista for reasons other than going to see a movie?
    Often, a "youngster" (younger than 18) will go along to take the rap for something that goes down that is illegal. That’s how he earns his stripes.
    The youngster goes to juvie or YA and gets out with full gang bravado.

  80. Ray (the real one0   April 6, 2010 at 8:06 am

    newbie: your post #59 sounds great, in theory. too bad it’s been ruled unconstitutional in California. Escondido tried that a few years ago along with a town back east and the ACLU and hispanic groups started carping. California is different from let’s say Arkansas or Missouri, not by much today but in California ANY regulations of gang dwellings or over occupancy is an immediate threat to the hispanic community and their "bundists" respond quickly. Another example which Fallbrook Res might agree are checkpoints. Escondido has been doing these checkpoints as well as other cities for years now and instantly the LULAC, MALDEL, EL GRUPO and the ACLU say these checkpoints target the hispanic community, how? it takes unlicensed and uninsured drivers off our roadways or every stripe, but sad to say, the majority of unlicensed and uninsured drivers are hispanic illegal aliens. Our laws state you can’t discriminate when renting a unit or selling a home even if you suspect gang members or over capacity issues, so we have to deal with it. newbie, a great idea but tried and failed.

  81. The Element   April 6, 2010 at 8:07 am

    thank you mmmm, ………., and finally ?????, you tool, you are the same person, you know two things, jack and nothing, and jack left a long time ago. MMMM, you contradicted yourself. “u really dont now wat ur talkin bout and yeah maybe the ppl he was wit were bad” was stated, and then you say “his mom didnt let him go anywere wit ppl she would think wuld put him in danger cuz dats his brother and his cousin”. is that all you got? You punk are a tool. And finally …… How easy is it to sit behind a screen and tell people that you are going to shove a foot in their ***, you just like the rest bangers are nothing unless you are around more just like you. Please fess up to being the same tool, or at least be more creative then using …, ????, or MMMM or 1234. This is stuff my 3 year old does.

  82. resident   April 6, 2010 at 10:02 am

    Ok this is my FIFTH TIME ASKING.

  83. BROOKTOWN   April 6, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    hey resident actually its only the 3rd but here is some common sense for u take a look around the area u should b able to tell by where it is still ghetto looking and not nice like the cineplex

  84. Open Ur Eyes   April 6, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    dude its stupid to say that fallbrook’s gang members are mostly hispanics…you may never know if theres some other races in the game too? so stop blaming all on the mexicans and open ur eyes and look at society i know more than you do (streetwise)….well no offense but alll i have to say is that not only hispanics are in the "game" .. then again gangs are stupid and should be stopped (gang sweeps) or else this stuff wouldnt be happening…

  85. resident   April 6, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    Brooktown, I am being censored by the Village News for asking the question. It was my fifth time. They are not printing my requests for some crazy reason. I have just resigned myself to not knowing the answer.

  86. Tyrone   April 6, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Ray is such a macho man bringing all the attention to himself… Guess what sweet heart you got my attention. You drive me crazy Ray.. there’s something about you. The fact that you rather take care of your mom instead of working (says a lot about you)… being on these forums all day and night that means you can stay up for long periods… you got me seeing more than hearts. 🙂

  87. Ray (the real one)   April 6, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    Open Ur Eyes: Correction, ALL of Fallbrook’s gangs are hispanic. Even the gang task force says that.

  88. Fallbrook Res   April 7, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Have you called for GangSweeps today?

  89. residentofFBK   April 7, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    ray (the real one) the tasks force states the gangs in fallbrook are made up of mostly not all hispanic individuals. Why do u automatically assume its gang related when this kids is only 13 years old out with his family and happened to find himself in a situation where he got shot? yes the vista boys were gang members but this kid wasnt. Everyone should pray that the kids is ok and is ok to make a full recovery. Not accusing him of being in a gang if you dont have your facts straight!

  90. Ray (the real one)   April 7, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    residentofFBK : Attend meetings, crime prevention group meets at Zion Lutheran Church once a month. Contact Pat Braendel for dates. You got internet, do the research. Actually read the newspapers. I know the words to “kum bah yah” tired of hearing them. you folks get “old” fast, trying to educate the mindless.

  91. Ray (the real one)   April 7, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    GEEZ……… Where does this politically correct nonsense come from? I am talking about "certified and active" gangs, not rich brats of "hillies" running around town in their "beemers" pissing off the locals. Figure it out…… (4) active gangs in Fallbrook, "all" hispanic. FBI statistics. Hispanic gangs eploding throughout America, want the "thousands of links"? Unless you have something besides nonsense, please don’t respond to me, I have knowledge far above yours regarding hispanic, issues and gangs and really get drained answering PC nonsense.

  92. USMCRET   April 7, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    All, Ray (the real one) says many things that irratate; I know. HOWEVER, that does not make him a racist – gangs are not a race, illegals are not a race. Find fault with him facts – it you disagree find fault with his logic; but the weak-sister act "oh, you are a racist" is getting old. Learn to write English, elimate some of the "S***" and F*** and you may find that more people will agree with you. Continue to refer to the injuryed child as "homie" and I will continue to think of you and him as gangsters.

  93. Pessimistic   April 7, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Real Ray – then patronize the skeptics and provide a couple authentic links. I don’t think the VN would have a problem with that. I’d be interested in reviewing them myself. I have saved a few of your links in days past, because they were informative.

    They posted a link in mine at post 70, for the ‘bender of truth’ – taco bender, with no problems; except the bender has yet to respond or refute my post.

    Post away, Real Ray, post away!

  94. god is love   April 8, 2010 at 7:11 am

    listen evreyone instead of judging and pointing fingers on anyone especially any race remember we are all human and are equal instead of focusing on the ethnicity of the people who did this why dont you guys just pray and hope this young boy gets well soon pray for him and his family cause god knows they are suffering right now ! if you have no good wishes or comments for them then dont post anything at all just remember it could be you in that place u could be that boy or part of that boys family it wouldnt make them feel better to read all your negativity! and for those who are writing good comments this does not go out to you !

  95. Fallbrook Res   April 8, 2010 at 8:11 am

    It’s Thursday, have you called for GangSweeps today?

  96. Ray (the real one)   April 8, 2010 at 11:29 am

    god is love: Praise the lord and pass the ammunition. I love the "goddies" always a chuckle.

  97. McCoy   April 8, 2010 at 1:29 pm


  98. Fallbrook Res   April 8, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    I liked you post McCoy.

    The Kid wouldnt be shot if a good GangSweep had been in motion, the boy would be home in peace.
    GangSweeps = Peace maker.

  99. Jay   April 8, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    McCoy: Well said, you saved me alot of writing. As for Ray(TRO) and Falbrook Res they can go pound sand!!!!!!!!!!

  100. Fallbrook Res   April 8, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    POST 99
    The gangs affect more of the hard working latin community than anyone else.
    Jay Is it because you want them to suffer with this type of bad element? I cant believe that.

  101. ????????   April 8, 2010 at 4:36 pm


  102. Pessimistic   April 8, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Well, ????????, then they can earn their stripes in the sweeps that follow – LOL.

    I don’t have a problem with gang sweeps, but revisit my post at #36. Those issues make part of your comment correct – they don’t really work. Amazing, to me at least, not one person commented on those issues/concerns. Wake up people!

  103. Ray (the real one)   April 8, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    McCoy: I care less if gang sweeps happen or not. Fallbrook is lost already. Political agendas? I am so not political, can’t stand politics or politicians.

  104. Fallbrook Res   April 8, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    People lets make the Sheriff’s get out more often and
    give us those GangSweeps, Not for US who live in our mini mansions but for them, who work their butts off day in and day out, They should also have peace.

    Have You called for GANGsweEPS?

  105. brk   April 9, 2010 at 7:08 am

    Gang sweeps don’t work everyone agrees on that, even if the Sherif arrest all the high ranking gangmembers. Sure they’ll go to jail but the ones left out on the street, will recruit because they’ll try to glorify the ones in prison, make them sound like there God. You can’t stop something thats been here since fallbrook was here.

  106. resident   April 9, 2010 at 7:08 am

    My prayers go out to this little boy. So sad to read he is still in critical condition. Also very sad to hear that his family would take this kind of a risk in entering the Townside area.

    Many thanks to Lt. Pete Callewaert, for providing a location for the Townside area. I will definitely not drive through that area anymore to get to the theater.

  107. BROOKTOWN   April 9, 2010 at 7:10 am

    mcCoy really guy r they out blasting people i dont think so but dont get me wrong i fell victim to those BS loans and did lose a house but to compare them to the scum that is these bangers get real McCoy

  108. Fallbrook Res   April 9, 2010 at 9:02 am

    post 105 dont believe that lie.
    Sweeps put pressure on the thugs.
    For the ones who live in the NICE communitys why is it ok for you but not ok for the hard working people of latin communitys. To have safe places to live you cant lay on your back and be runned over by the thugs.

  109. god is love   April 9, 2010 at 9:59 am

    ray the real one – ur full of it dude seriously ! it seems you have no life ive been reading your posts yea your a messed up human being but we all are at some point lifes hard but you dont let it get to you seriously idk how someone can be such a messed up person ! hopefully god will illuminate your life…

  110. just sayin   April 9, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Ray… you mentioned that you live in your own little piece of heaven now.. lk san marcos…. have you walked up the road from there about 3 blocks north.. on santa fe…. gangs here are a problem but man.. that area is a much worse H*ll hole than here… so while problems persist here…. they are worse in your little neck of the woods.

  111. sailbyme   April 9, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    The family culture. They pop kids out like a pez dispenser with no regard as to how they’ll support or educate them. And we wonder why there’s a gang problem.

  112. sailbyme   April 9, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Wait until they get amnesty, and they will. You ain’t seen nothing yet. Repeal the 14th amendment.

  113. Juan   April 9, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Just a youngster puttin in work. There will be retaliation! That’s how it works.

    Seriously, the "gangs" have been around for a long, long time. There’s no stopping the violence. Turf wars. Not a good way to live.

  114. Ray (the real one)   April 9, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    sailbyme: I got a better one. In by 9, out by 5.

  115. Ray (the real one)   April 9, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    sailbyme: "pez dispenser" Now that’s funny, got to write that one down for future use. Sad but true though. I call it the "breed but can’t feed" syndrome. Had a blowout in Major Market today while in the "friendly barrio". Mexican woman who could speak fluent English, talking to her two kids, two and three in Spanish. I responded "don’t you think English would be more appropriate unless you want them in Jail, in a gang or dead". She gasped for a response, truned red and walked out, the girl at the registered grinned and winked, an intelligent and informed person. By the way, she used her EBT card.

  116. Ray (the real one)   April 9, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    just sayin: It’s like having trash cans on the street instead of being by your door. I don’t smell the stink. Maybe San Marcos does, but I don’t have to deal with it directly anymore as I did in "the friendly barrio".

  117. Ray (the real one)   April 9, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    god is love: Give me twelve drunks, shallow water and some large stones and even I can pull off the illusion of walking on water. Religion today has gone the way of the 8 track player.

  118. Wateverz   April 9, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    Everybody commentin negatinee stuff juss get a lifeee straightt out juss get a lifee!!!!! n watever happened happened yuh cant go bak in time n change that!!!!

  119. BROOKTOWN   April 9, 2010 at 5:22 pm


  120. erms   April 10, 2010 at 7:55 am

    Ray don’t you think you should keep your parenting skills to yourself? Just because you’re limited to english doesn’t mean you can go around talking about what you think is appropriate! In some countries speaking two languages is a benefit. But apparantley to you, it’s limiting. Grow up. Wah wah wah. Speak english. Why don’t you take a class, travel!? Get to know the world instead of exploring your behind, because your existance is sad.

  121. Law Abiding Citizen   April 10, 2010 at 7:55 am

    Oh, I forgot to tell you Ray, you should learn how to spell correctly. As a college student you learn a thing or two from a basic writing class. Since you seem to know the answer/solution to everything: How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

  122. Law Abiding Citizen   April 10, 2010 at 7:56 am

    If I ever see you in Major Market Ray I’d like to talk to you. You think one person speaks for the rest of their race? If that is so then I suppose all white American Caucasians are all racist, presumptuous, supremacists filled with some sort of bitterness. What’s wrong Ray, didn’t your mother ever hug you?

  123. Ray (the real one)   April 10, 2010 at 7:56 am

    Text stupidity? No wonder why our youth is flunking out. Remember folks, these are the folks that will be in power when we are old and gray, scary thought ain’t it.

  124. MRC   April 10, 2010 at 7:57 am

    It was not a school night, so naturally a movie is great fun, and a great way to start a spring break from school.A tragic thing that anyone would even own a gun, and be in public near a 13 yr. old , or other kids and families. Someone deliberately shot a young man in Vista twice. Where is the bullet? I know that they can do a lot to help him, maybe the bullet is gone, I can’t imagine what it must be like for him. I know they probably are keeping him sedated, I am praying that he recovers. Why on earth was he shot, being the younger of the three going to the movies? He is a kid. I am praying and seeing how nice it will be when he heals and opens his thoughtful eyes. I am praying for him and his Mother’s anguish. I hope they release good news that he is recovering. LOVE & PEACE

  125. BROOKTOWN   April 10, 2010 at 7:57 am

    hey Fallbrook Res go out and buy the seaons of GANGLAND and watch them then maybe u will get off this gangsweep preaching the new season just started its on the history channel tue or wen check it out sometime maybe u will learn something

  126. pde   April 10, 2010 at 11:36 am

    Ray reminds me of that one racist guy that comes out in Harold and Kumar escape from Guantanamo bay

  127. Donna   April 10, 2010 at 11:36 am

    MRC. School night or not 9 pm is a little late for a 13 year old.

  128. Donna   April 10, 2010 at 11:37 am

    Unknown, feel the pain of his mother? Why was her son out so late on a school night. Perhaps she should be a better parent and her son would not have gotten shot. I pray she brushes up on her parenting skills. That’s what I pray for. Children are gifts from God. Take care of them and treasure them. Do not let them just run amuck.

  129. Fallbrook Res   April 10, 2010 at 11:37 am

    You mentioned sweeps dont work, its a tool in the quiver yetnot the only tool avaliable to law enforcment.
    Members of Fallbrook

  130. Fallbrook Res   April 10, 2010 at 11:37 am

    Post 125
    Thanks for the recomendation.
    but I choose not to celebrate what makes communitys in a mess for the lawabiding and hard working men and woman. Rather risk on the otherside and stop the THUG. Options are available you don’t have to laydown and take it.

    GangSweeps= Peace

  131. Ray (the real one)   April 10, 2010 at 11:37 am

    MRC: Maybe he was just an innocent bystander in the wrong place at the wrong time, or maybe he was visiting known gang members from vista, who really knows and we may never know since he;s under 18. The problem here is gangs, a topic nobody wants to talk about and especially speak the truth about. Just in the past weeks, Fallbrook stabbing at a bar, Fallbrook teen shot in Vista and One dead, five injured in San Marcos. A common factor exists but when people talk about, everyone becomes ballistic and I think everyone knows what the situations are.

  132. Ray (the real one)   April 10, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    Here is a prime example of what I am talking about. Back in 2006 the Mc Gonigle Canyon incident where the San Diego Minutemen were blamed for thrashing the migrant camps while filming the child prostitues operating in the area. In actuality the Minutemen had nothing to do with the incident. The SDPD has been covering up the problem of drugs and prostitution there for years, they got nervous when people brought it to the public eye. It was dismissed and the case is still open. Recently another concerned citizen filmed the activities in the canyon and finally the lid was off and they now had to take action. although the cover up went into the high ranks of the SDPD and numerous open borders groups, nothing has happened regarding the gangs, drugs and prostitution in the canyons nor has any officials, officers or open borders people been charge with obstruction. So if you expect to get the truth about the gang problems within the county, don’t hold your breath.

  133. Ray (the real one)   April 10, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    Fallbrook Res Where do you get your information from? "Members of Fallbrook

  134. Ray (the real one)   April 10, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Fallbrook Res Where do you get your information from? "Members of Fallbrook

  135. Fallbrook Res   April 11, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    post 134
    = FBVN

  136. 2 real   April 11, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    fallbrook is a dump!

  137. BROOKTOWN   April 11, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Fallbrook Res im not saying lay down and take it im just saying i live in reality and i no that u take them away great there is gonna b 5 or more ready to take the ones place thats just the way it is the TRUTH HURTS

  138. Ray (the real one)   April 11, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Fallbrook Res : You need to go beyond what a community paper tells you or what garbage your fed by others less informed. There is a "big" world out there full of "boogy men" with titles and badges who will lie to directly to your face with a smile. I just hopw you figure this out and see for yourself, things are not fine in "hooterville".

  139. Ray (the real one)   April 11, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Fallbrook Res : Broaden your scope.

  140. Ray (the real one)   April 11, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Maybe with all my critique regarding the SDSO since 1999 the rule is "step on a crack, put your hands behind your back". I learned a lesson in 2009, never speak badly about people who can make your life misreable. Now I no longer live in the "friendly barrio" I can expose "all the dirt". and the "cover ups" on Alvarado Avenue.

  141. usmcret   April 12, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    #121 law abiding citizen, the answer to your question: – about as much ground as a groundhog could grind, if a ground hog could ground ground.

  142. McCoy   April 12, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Brooktown comment 107: Bangers and corporate thieves are both scum bags. I do believe white corporate criminals are truly the biggest human waste our society deals with on a daily basis. Corporate criminals will cheat everybody in this forum more than once and our future generations as well if we do not do something about it. If people want to scream for gang sweeps that

  143. McCoy   April 12, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Ray comment 103: If Fallbrook is lost why do you bother to talk about it so much? Fallbrook does not raise quitters so that is a clear indication you were not raised in the Avocado Village.

  144. usmcret   April 13, 2010 at 8:04 am

    Ray, in response to #133

  145. jesus loves you   April 13, 2010 at 8:04 am

    Honestly People If You Dont Know Anything
    About This Dont Say Anything Mostly You
    Ray . Mexicans Arent The Only Ones In Gangs
    You Need To Stay Updated . Cause Last Time I
    Checked Theres A Gang Called KKK And That
    A Gang Of A Lot Of Americans So RAY Shut Your
    Mouth And Get It Through Your Head Were
    ALL EQUALLY The SAME ! Why Dont You Guys Think About What His Family Is Going Throuhh How
    His Friends Feel . Im One Of Those Persons
    That Really Cares About Him And Wishes The
    BEST For My Lil Homie Much Love And Respect .

  146. willium   April 13, 2010 at 8:18 am

    i agree with JESUS LOVES YOU !!!!!
    ray shut the @#$% up

  147. Ray (the real one)   April 13, 2010 at 9:57 am

    usmcret: My facts come from associations with deputies who no longer work at the Fallbrook Sub Station. A few former commanders, one of which retired in 2006 and now works for the federal government. A few loose associations with a few gang members, courses for my criminal justice degree including the PC-832 courses and AB-2880, General experiences, I can read gang gard as easily as the New York Times.To a police officer the worst thing you can say is theres a problem and I can’t do anything about it, crime is bad for their business. Fallbrook is unincorporated which means our budget is set by the county board, unlike other SDSO contracts where the city council’s decide on how mush is paid, that is why Vista has more resources and better deputies than Fallbrook. Another thing is you don’t want to alert the people your being paid by. To say that Fallbrook has a hang problem is bad enough but to say that now Fallbrook has the "hard core" gangs as MS-13 would strike fear and demands for action. It’s bad enough that the SDSO has a poor relationship with the community, to say we know but we can’t do anything about it, what would you think the community would do? Being a Marine, I think you can understand this concept, same one the military uses.

  148. Ray (the real one)   April 13, 2010 at 9:58 am

    jesus loves you: We are not talking about South Philidelphia or Shaker Heights, or Brooklyn we are talking about San Diego County and Fallbrook and it just so happens "ALL" of the gangs in Fallbrook are hispanic and for the rest of the county, it’s 90% so please take your own advise. You loose your credibility when you use words like "homie" guess it’s in your DNA too, born in the bone. Some things will never change.

  149. Ray (the real one)   April 13, 2010 at 11:17 am

    usmcret: You know why gangs consider Fallbrook prime real estate? Because it’s rural, has a low officer to citizen ratio, lush growing land and people who don’t get involved if they see something, has great back country smuggling routes and easy access to markets in five counties. Fallbrook is considered an "open city" for gangs

  150. Ray (the real one)   April 13, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    I forgot one. "Richie Riches" to buy their products.

  151. jesus loves you   April 14, 2010 at 8:30 am

    ray: it doesnt matter were we stay at the whole point is that there are americans in gangs its not only hispanics . && i dont think you understand that the family is going through so much pain and your little dum**s is just judging hispanics come on person . did your mom and you dad ever tell you that were all the same it doesnt matter what our color skin is so seriously ray stop it with your little stupid childish things your right 90% of San Diego county which are hispanic… so looks like your out numbered im glad you notice wat ethnicity is running the streets…. and most of your jobs so being hispanic has nothing to do with the violence going on anyone from any ethnic group can make the same choice ….so lets be realistic!!!!!

  152. A Ray hater!!   April 14, 2010 at 8:31 am

    After reading all this so called" gangs activity and what to do with" it’s just wow! Gangs now a days are In controll if you want them to! If you ignore them and tell your children to ingnore them it’s one easy solution! Now what with the gangsweeps?? I was out with my friends out and just because one of my friends was bald they stop us to check all of us! In fact Ray( the real one) we wear all latinos! And if I had something to tell you is go and get out your history books I think the Mexican and the Spanish people were here first in this country! Other than indians who were settled in the land before! So I think since I’m Mexican I consider you a illegal because all the English people who came from England, great Britain and those rest of the country were illegal first in this country! So stop putting Mexican into all the bad spots! I’ve seen white people in gangs! Is not just Mexican it’s all the race’s now! So stop the ***k allusting Mexicans! And for the my good friend who got shot keep fighting you can get better! My prayers go out to you and you family! Also Ray you have no life as I can see you think you know everything! And the test of the people when you call a person your homie it’s showing love and respect to one another so my homie hopefully you overcome this!

  153. usmcret   April 14, 2010 at 8:32 am

    Ray: "It’s bad enough that the SDSO has a poor relationship with the community, to say we know but we can’t do anything about it, what would you think the community would do? Being a Marine, I think you can understand this concept, same one the military uses." ? No idea what you are saying. The Corps has a bad relationship with the commuinity? One thing I like about you, actually two things, make up your own facts, and change the subject – all ways on the attack, just not a focused attack.

  154. usmcret   April 14, 2010 at 8:32 am

    So Ray, you tell Fallbrook Res that his/her facts are outdated, but you list as your authorities on this

  155. Ray (the real one)   April 14, 2010 at 9:36 am

    usmcret: Believe what you will but the Citizen’s Crime Prevention meetings is nothing but political. I can expect people to believe what people tell them especially when it’s to keep the masses happy. Seems you didn’t read enough of my postings. As for making up facts, I think my exposing the prostitution and who is responsible speaks for itself thank you. As for only ONE gang in town, When you see many MS-13 tatoos, you tend to believe they are here and when I lived on West Mission, their turf, I knew back than. I know your a good soldier, always obeying orders but your retired now, don’t believe what everyone tells you. . A Ray hater!!: did I tough a nerve. As for your being stopped. Only get one chance to make a first impression. Don’t want to be stopped, don’t look like the stereotype.

  156. Ray (the real one)   April 14, 2010 at 9:56 am

    A Ray hater!!: Seems your friend went there with motives not of an innocent nature:

    "These kids went into [this] neighborhood looking for a dispute," says Callewaert. "If [suspected gang members] want to drive into the geographical area where numerous rival gang members live, they

  157. Ray (the real one)   April 14, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Let’s look at your law enforcement incident in detail. You were pulled over by the SDSO, reasoning is that you resembled "known" gang members right? Your were given a field interrogation and released right? Now let’s go back to why you were stopped, bald head, was that all? did your attire indicate that you might be of gang affiliation? The actions we take or do are directly how people perceive us. Now I I saw this individual on the street in blue jeans, a tee shirt I would not give this person a second thought but if I saw this person in a wife beater tee shirt, hair net, shorts, white knee socks and athletic shoes "untied" my "red alert" alarm would go off, sorry but that’s just life. Simple solution, don’t want to be treated like a banger, don’t act and dress like one. You would be suprised how many doors would be open to you.

  158. Ray (the real one)   April 14, 2010 at 10:55 am

    A Ray hater!!: By the way, I shave my head too but I wear clean clothes, jeans, polo or tee shirt and a plain color baseball style cap, worn correctly. My car is not lowered, does not bounce, no spinner rims, no puffer pipes, and no killowatt boom box stereo playing "kill cops" hip-hop. All I can say to you is, looking like a punk is no way to go through life, grow up.

  159. v   April 14, 2010 at 11:24 am


  160. Fallbrook Res   April 14, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    This kid would not have been shot if he stayed home and hanging with thugs.
    This kid would not have been shot if there were regular GangSweeps. Lets ask the parents what they think?

    Have you called for GangSWEEPS today?

  161. Pessimistic   April 14, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    usmcret – you are correct in your assessment of Real Ray. A few criminal justice courses (if actually taken) does not a law professor, let alone a cop, make.

    And his ramblings of the big prostitution bust he made is just that – ramblings. He has yet to provide PROOF of this extraordinary accomplishment. No wonder I never see hookers down town. Thanks Ray!

  162. BABI FEEL BETTER   April 14, 2010 at 7:19 pm


  163. Ray (the real one)   April 15, 2010 at 7:37 am

    usmcret: Never a Marine, Army. I wanted to actually learn something to be used later in life besides rifleman.

  164. Ray (the real one)   April 15, 2010 at 7:38 am

    Pessimistic: Cops barely know the laws they are sworn to enforce. I’ll put my knowledge up against a cop anytime.

  165. jesus loves you   April 15, 2010 at 9:36 am

    i aggree with babii get better (:
    && F**k youu ray . my best uncle died
    cause an ametican that was in a gang killed him !
    its notonly hispanics so please shut up . your just
    hateinnn on mexicanss cause your mom
    never gave you any love freakinnn hater .

  166. usmcret   April 15, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Wow Ray, you sure zinged me! Besides chaplains, medical corps, and patriot crew-member, what jobs does the army have that the Marines do not (and we make up for those skills with our Navy brethren or our fixed wing squadrons) Ray, again, you seldom use facts (your opinions are not facts); you fly off in different directions hoping to avoid the issue; why, when the topic is gangs in Fallbrook, do you now try to engage in juvenile service rivalry? Then, you claim that cops do not know the law as well as you. I will let you continue to believe that

  167. Fallbrook Res   April 15, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Post 164

    Your so called knowledge base, landed you in a jail 4 days because you dont know what it means to keep your stupid weapons out of a hospital. It’s not just law enforcment that’s smarter than you, but it’s most people. LOOk at the way you live your life below average life style. Because of your actions.

  168. Ray hater!!   April 15, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Well your right we were realeased back after checking all of us! But not all gang members dress with a white tee and hair nets and etc! As you said! You did prove a point on that but the true gang members who are VFL’s dress nice as you consider a normal person the only thing that states who is one and who’s no is on their chest! They have a NFL logo and inside it says VFL and that’s how you know! And a correction for you I was not tere with my friend that day but maybe he was looking for trouble maybe he wasn’t! I don’t know I was not there! But I have been through road townsite I’ve played on townsite park on the turf and there’s a lot of gang activity but if you stay put of it there is no point in hurting you if there is no trouble for you! And about the low riders, bouncing up and down and the radio stuff you said? The truth is that doesn’t exsist anymore the goes way back to when "cholos" were the real deal when the dressed with tuxedos all iron with there hats and everyhing else! Those were the dad when you couldn’t even go through main st in front of the m&m store all the corners there! Those are the times when that exsisted!

  169. Ray (the real one)   April 15, 2010 at 11:02 am

    Fallbrook Res: Maybe but I got off. Besides those weapons are NOT illegal period. See police really don’t know the law just ask that woman in La Mesa. Well I live in Lake San Marcos, where do you live? By the way, how’s the car?

  170. Ray (the real one)   April 15, 2010 at 11:02 am

    Fallbrook Res: I remember a few years ago you suffered an incident. Boy did you cry when people jumped all over you so before you insult, remember you didn’t like it right? You disagree, say so. respectfully.

  171. Ray (the real one)   April 15, 2010 at 11:02 am

    Since the courts now consider me a public figure because I’m an activist, there is little I can do about the direct insults against I, my mother or my family, I just have to live with it but I do draw the line on direct insults against my mother. She did a good job raising me and making me a "Good American" seems this story shows some failures within the community. If your going to insult me, all I ask is to keep it clean, Lately I’ve seen the "****" in place of the real deal. Remember this is a family paper and if you disagree, that’s your opinion, how about writing it as such. I am sure DR would appreciate it.

  172. Ray (the real one)   April 15, 2010 at 11:55 am

    usmcret : Main occupation (MOS) was electronics but did a tour in Germany as an M.P. Last time I actually saw a rifle was in basic but it’s been long enough, programming wore off although I still spit shine my shoes and sort my wardrobe. Hope that answers your questions.

  173. Ray (the real one)   April 15, 2010 at 11:56 am

    Ray hater!!: Why join in the first place? Why not study, advance your education and make a better life for yourself and kids "if any". There is no excuse for obtaining a "better life" no matter how rich or poor you are. Profiling is just a way of life. I used to be profiled because as a kid I wore and looked like the gangs of the day and trust me, the Chicago Police were not as kind as the SDSO, chances were you got beaten or what the called "driven around the precincts" where for 24 hours, you were shifted from one precinct to another before ever being booked into county jail. But I realized later on that I got tired of the hassles, maybe you folks might get it too. Just remember this, what you do effects your life, think about it.

  174. Fallbrook Res   April 15, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    "By the way, how’s the car?"
    All the cars are working and look good.
    Thanks for asking.
    The view is spectacular also.

    "Besides those weapons are NOT illegal period."
    Since you don’t get it, I can’t wait to see you blunder again,and bring self inflicted pain like those 4 days. Your life style, your associates tell it all.
    You mention respect, try giving it others first.
    You sir are the king of disrespect and insults.
    The crown is yours.

    One thing to make clear,
    about your mother I don’t know her. From what I have read Your mother should have all the peace she can get.

    GangSweeps PLEASE!

  175. CALL ME QUICK.   April 15, 2010 at 12:39 pm


  176. CALL ME QUICK   April 15, 2010 at 12:39 pm


  177. Ray (the real one)   April 15, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    Fallbrook Res: I rarely make "blunders" but I did like the "Vista" experience. Gave me more to write about. Glad to hear you got a new car. By the way, the SDSO had to return all my property and I purchased a "new" pistol last week. So goes the retaliation arrest.

    CALL ME QUICK: Let me get my "gang" universal translator out so I can decode your posts.

  178. Ray (the real one)   April 15, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    Fallbrook Res: I’ll make a deal with you. Make the signs, tell me when you want to picket and I’ll drive all the way up there with a few other Fallbrook residents. Actions not words. Maybe than you might get your "sweeps" and check points".

  179. Ray (the real one)   April 15, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    Fallbrook Res: you want gang sweeps? You want sobriety check points? Try getting out of your recliner, make some signs and walk a few hours outside the sub station on Alvarado. Maybe than when you "take some risks" you might be able to make a valid comment on someone’s arrests or beliefs. I was also issued a "misdemeanor: citation for going over 35 MPH on Interstate 8 in the late 1980’s, get the rope.

  180. Ray (the real one)   April 15, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    Fallbrook Res: please define for me what "infractions", "misdemeanors" and "felonies" are? Do you actually know? What a shame. I was charged with "one" misdemeanor, PC 148 (a) (1) desobeying a police officer or emt. This charge could result from asking an officer "why am I being questioned" or "excersizing one’s constitutional rights under Miranda and Escobedo". Do you know what these decisions are? So I don’t let people bother me about a low grade "petty" misdemeanor which was dismissed and "expunged". Do you know what expunged means? Not the first time I have been arrested for excersizing my rights, will not be the last time but one thing I can say, I put my actions before just words. I have the courage to get my hands dirty, not like those "arm chair quarterbacks" who speak but do nothing. Fallbrook Res: 🙂

  181. Ray (the real one)   April 15, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Fallbrook Res: To sweeten the pot, I’ll even pay for the sign as long as you go to my vendor, put it on my tab.

  182. Fallbrook Res   April 15, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    Want gang sweeps?
    You want sobriety check points?
    Make some signs and walk a few hours outside the sub station on Alvarado.
    This might be the only way to get some regular action on this subject. Your Right-on
    Your offer could’nt take it up I do not like the way you handle yourself and your associates it’s a bully mentality.

    "do nothing"
    As for doing something I make my calls, I don’t care if you don’t like it. Also tell my neighbors to do the same, I don’t care if you don’t like that either.
    It’s what we our doing at this time.

    As for the codes I don’t care one bit, I don’t run like a thug to have codes looked up on my person and end up in jail or worse.

    Have you called for GANGSWEEPs today?

  183. BROOKTOWN   April 15, 2010 at 4:49 pm


  184. momz   April 15, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    wow, what can I say, Fallbrook has the same problems as the rest of the world, there are gangs, wanna-be’s, people that think they are smarter then a fifth grader. I wonder if the regular’s that post daily could actually go outside say hello to a complete stranger, do a good deed and can not post a negative response for at least 24 hour. Sorry to hear about the 13 year old boy, we should never take each day for granted for you never know if it is going to be your last.

  185. Fallbrook Res   April 15, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    I will record it

  186. Ray K****R   April 16, 2010 at 9:44 am

    Hey Ray U Lucky they Havent seen in the
    Streets iF not u would have been eating all those words ur saying

  187. Ray (the real one)   April 16, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    I grew up on the South Side of Chicago. I have dealt with people who would kill you for a bus transfer. Do you think I’m going to worry about some "burrito" Cholo? I don’t think so. Bring the frejoles on!

  188. **88888   April 18, 2010 at 12:25 am

    you know wat ray stop sayingg ,,,, everyone is ,,,,, tired off your stuppid ……. that your sayying.. stop being racist to mexicans.!!,,,,,,!!

  189. kay   April 20, 2010 at 9:08 am

    seriously your nothinn but a hater .
    swalloo your words && honestly

  190. RAY K****R   April 20, 2010 at 9:08 am

    SHut the F***k up if u were really from south side of chicago
    u wouldnt be talking all this **** in the computer
    why dont YOu say it to burrito cholo like u say

  191. Fallbrook Res   April 20, 2010 at 9:47 am

    Sheriff: 282 arrested in San Diego County sweep


  192. shutup!   April 21, 2010 at 8:29 am

    HMMMM maybe if all these kids parents tought them right from wrong all this crap wouldn’t even be happening! good job parents! i guess 15 year old mexicans shouldn’t be having kids if they can’t raise them the right way! so there you go, call me racist, whatever you want. quite frankly, i don’t give a ****.

  193. fallbrook res   April 21, 2010 at 8:52 am

    the sheriff department from San Diego County
    want to have a vista gang sweep on April 23rd

  194. kay   April 21, 2010 at 8:52 am

    shutup: hmmmm maybe if you were going through
    all this you’d understand all you white people get whatever you want cause you guys think you own this **** .
    but the reality is that you guys just now how to run your little mouth so run up or shut up Mkay > .

  195. Fallbrook REs   April 21, 2010 at 8:53 am

    to u shut Up talking alll this Crap about mexicans
    What about to all them white t**sh that are crack heads
    and haxe kids when there young how come u dont say nothing about that too
    ITs not just mexicans it happens in any race

  196. *****   April 21, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    kay:you know what you dont know what you talking about alright and if your telliin me that i just runnin my little mouth look whose talking okay.im not the only one talkin ****& i dont give A ****what you have to say!..kay!

  197. kay   April 22, 2010 at 8:30 am

    *****: i know exactly what im talkinn about i know alot of white people that are like that . so get your s***t together . && its not only mexicans that cause all this to happen white people are involved to ! but whatever obivously you white people arent gonna get this through your heads >,

  198. *****   April 22, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    kay:you know what kay im not just only white alright I’m half Mexican alright..and see you the the ….. that’s being racist to white people.. alright so if your going to be racist ………….!!

  199. kay   April 23, 2010 at 8:19 am

    *****: well stop acting like if mexicans are the ones who cause all this .

  200. STUD .   April 24, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    okey people you guys should just stop talkinn crap .
    and just worry about your self cause if all your gonna do is talk **** thenn just shut it …….

  201. pde   April 24, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Ill be laughing if ray gets confronted by a gangster…i bet hell be sh****** his pants

  202. Ray (the real one)   April 25, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    pde: Never happen.

    kay: Quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, assume it’s a duck.

    Fallbrook REs: They are our problem, yours is Mexico’s.

    shutup!: Well if it bl**ds, it breeds.

  203. *****   April 27, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    kay:well im not acting like it alright.your so retarded i wonder who you got it from??
    and im not blaming my own race..if u your saying i am!!
    im not that retarded like you are..

  204. kay   April 29, 2010 at 8:45 am

    ***** : three words __ get a life ;

  205. 1234   May 1, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    I herad hes coming home yay !!! Babiie I love You!! all u ppl who were talking s… in your face hes better and just watch if something like dis ever happens to you ur gonna see wat it feels wen ppl are talkin s… wen dey dont even know wat relly happened! but i really could care less bout all of you cuz all dat matters is dat My Babiie is BETTER!! cant wait to see you Babiie ! I Love You Muchooooooo !

  206. *****   May 1, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    kay: i don’t need to get a life i have a really good life
    & I don’t need to be spending time talking s…. on you cuz ur words are not worth my time..& the one that needs to get a life is u..u need to learn to not get in peoples business like u always do..alright kayy!!

  207. Zonia   May 9, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    R.I.P my prayers to him and his family. He was a good boy just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

  208. *****   May 10, 2010 at 8:47 am

    {RIP}my prayers to him & his family..im going to miss my little freind..

  209. Just don't get it!   May 10, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    How can a gang member say: “this is my territory” when they don’t even have anything in writing that it’s their property. Or when they tag walls in the night (cause they don’t have the guts to do it in the day time). Parents need to take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for their children. Parents and their children should have the same consequences!!!! Maybe this can be a learning process for them all. Or get out, cause you ain’t wanted here. Get the message!

  210. mom of a 13 year old   May 10, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    God Bless this boy and God Bless his family during their time of loss. My prayers are with you today and always!

  211. iloveu!   May 10, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    REspt in peace homeboy i love you u were my #1 Dirtay!!!! Ima miss u soooo muchh n help his family n his friendz get over this!! Te quiero mucho mi sucio!!

  212. FRIEND   May 10, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    I knew this kid, he was in my class. He passed away on may 8.He was a great guy and did not diserve wat happrn to him. We well always remember him for the great kid he was

  213. pde   May 10, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    R.I.P we will miss you

  214. street smart   May 11, 2010 at 4:54 am

    well i can tell yall this.. there is an unwritten law/rule with all hispanic gangs that you are never to target women or children during gang "warfare". the fact that the now deceased victim happened to be only 13 years old makes him a child. lets see if the murderer gets dealt with by his own gang for this atrocious act of cowardice! i can tell you that if he is ever caught by law enforcement and sent off to prison, he will receive prison justice at the hands of prison gangs! lets hope the murderer gets caught, convicted, and sent off to receive prison yard justice!!

  215. Potter Mom   May 11, 2010 at 9:35 am

    RIP you were loved by many and we will se you in heaven

  216. Guess what??   May 11, 2010 at 9:36 am

    EP, you think we people just say things to offend? Well, guess what? After things like this happen and the families can’t cover the costs. Guess what? They reach out to the community for help. So when you say people talk “SxxT”…all we want is to stop these useless killings.

  217. kay   May 11, 2010 at 9:38 am

    October 6 1996 – May 9 2010
    i LOVE you && youll always
    be in my heart i know hes looking
    down on us . & he left for a reason .

    God needed you so from this world you left but you took a piece of me & luckly i took a peice of your heart

  218. J   May 11, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    It is a sad day in Fallbrook since we have lost a great young man.

    Rest In Peace

    You will be remebered and my condolences go out to this young man’s loved ones.

  219. LOE teacher   May 11, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    This poor boy was my student at one time, as were both his older and younger brothers. What I remember is a kid who was always happy, had many friends, and energy to spare! He had such a positive attitude and outlook on life at the age of 9. What a horrible and tragic shame that he was cut down so soon. We will never know what he could have become. My hope is that the community of Fallbrook will comfort and support the younger siblings in this family and use this experience to do something once and for all to prevent more children from succumbing to gang violence.

  220. girlllyyyy girll   May 17, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    i will love for ever
    from 10.6.1996 TO 5.9.2010
    you died to young. i wish you were still here.
    and i always will wiidh yu were still here.
    it feels weird not haveing you here at school to cheer me up when im down.
    i will always have you in my heart

  221. chickk   May 17, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    this is bull.
    i personally knew franky and he was a good kid .
    my school wontbe the same without him, neither will our lives .
    i will always love him and he will always be in my heart.
    me and my riends did a car wash and collected donations at school for the family and his funeral. we made at least 3 to 4 thousand. callewaert doesnt even know him and hes judgeing him and sayin that hes a gang member. how the h… would callewaert know ?! he doesnt even know him.
    and really how does it make you feel that your talking …. on a dead person ? so stfu. do you feel good talking about a dead person ?? if you are gona talk …. when hes dead why wouldnt you do it when he was a live ? why didnt you do it to his face when he was a live ?
    i will always love you franky !!! forever and ever and ever you were a great friend and now i will remember you that way 🙂
    i love you frankie always and foreverr

  222. hispanic   May 21, 2010 at 11:11 am

    first of all i just to say sorry to the family there all good people and also who is RaY and why does he think his opinion matters so much?

  223. barbie   May 27, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    whatever to all of u guys havwe respect for their perants and for the kid who got shot twice if u guys dont have anything to do then

  224. Jail for parents   June 4, 2010 at 8:09 am

    stop the cycle
    put the parents in jail! The kid should have been at home
    not in Vista

  225. shut up   June 4, 2010 at 10:59 am

    wat do u mean put the parents in jail? are u for real?
    his parents are the best parents like any other parent that would gixe their life for there kids…

  226. School?   June 7, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    After reading the comments from his classmates – I have to wonder what school they go to? At 13 they should be able to spell better.
    "perants, diserve wat happrn, haveing, a live(alive), judgeing"
    I hope their teacher reads this.

  227. Answer to 226   June 21, 2010 at 8:11 am

    Thats POTTER kids for ya!

  228. ?????   June 27, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    …. this stupid pig he dont know was uppp he saying tht cus hes from verga to r.i.p. homie

  229. BonsallGayGuy   July 2, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    re: post 228. Translation please?

  230. MSGT   August 4, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    Awesome topic, I agree with everyone that is in favor of systematically eradicating our community of gangs, we should accomplish this by focusing on a two prong attack; first work on the parenting issue while actively persuing the gangs on the streets until they exist no more…the challenge will be to keep consistent pressure, that takes team work and a whole lot of resources.

  231. valerie   September 7, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    pessemistic, most of them are!

  232. JWS   September 24, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    Where were the parents? And why is a 13 year old going to Vista looking for trouble. I’m at a loss of words. I was not allowed to roam around at the age of 13, not even in my own town!

  233. samjones   December 16, 2010 at 7:08 am

    Has anyone ridden the Sprinter through Vista? It is obvious that there is gang activity and the whole area is in decline. We are the inner city folks.

  234. Rob   January 28, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    This is just another example of the Liberal utopia. That let in the illegal, get the anchor baby, make them dependent on the State, get their vote, live in the protected castle and throw the scum into our neighbhorhoods, schools, etc.

    I have 4 kids. Wr first pulled them out of public school, Thompson was OK but La Paloma and Potter were a nightmare. We then went to St. Peter. OK, but lacking in advanced education. As Main Street became Avenida Revolucion we became fearful. When my kids began getting threatened because they half some ancestry in Mexico but are 100% American and speak no Spanish, we began to look to to get out. The graffitti on the school walls (not reported), the demands for Spanish announcements, the violence (to include murder) made it clear that Fallbrook was no longer the Friendly Village.

    We moved from Ridgecrest and into Greer Ranch. The kids attend Linfield (Temecula Private school).

    We tried to convince our neighbors to stop hiring illegals. We went to the school to complain about the violence and threats but nothing was done. I see many comments on this article, but NO action in the community. That is why we left. I wish you all well, but unless you take action to protect your community you will live in fear. Find out who hires the illegals, find out who rents the scumbags apartments, put together a neighborhood watch, become a city and get a real police department and for God’s sake get guns and know how to use them.

  235. Illuminati   January 31, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Rob: Stop being a little girl not every place you go is going to be perfect there’s always going to be a problem

  236. Angie   March 7, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    This goes out to Ray look at America’s history if you know it. The very first gang in the USA was the KKK. They formed back after the civil war. You diverse this country a long time ago by race, and income and now your crying. Look at human history there have always been thefts, murderers, rapist, greed, etc. The power of man has always made a great deal in this world.

  237. MovedAway   May 6, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    Just spent 30 minutes reading the articles and comments. Yikes. I am soooo glad I got out of Fallbrook and out of California.

  238. Fallbrook   May 9, 2011 at 10:44 am

    R.I.p Frankie ! you will be missed but never forgotten ! we all love you

  239. Vicki Fallbrook   May 26, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Its very easy to sit and write are thoughts and concerns. However its the actions. Does the "V" in victim stand for Victory for the bully? Not if we "STAND UP" my group for parents who have kids in school that are being bullied. We lead by both words and actions. Fallbrook is my groups location. We dont need to move out of Fallbrook or CA. If we "Run" How is that making a true diffrence?

  240. RAYZIE   July 12, 2012 at 9:28 am

    being in a gang is the only way to be safe anymore. then you have your homies to back you up.

  241. Fallbrook Gang   November 9, 2012 at 12:16 am

    R.I.p tHA HoMIE DAnGER!

  242. Yoshi Shirindipity   February 7, 2013 at 10:39 am

    I think gans are bad news – I remember being in a gang in Japan – it was a bad time in my life. Now I grow Avocados in the Village.

  243. Freshie09   May 30, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    And I thought that that area of Vista was pretty safe. I have a total different view now. Pssh

  244. Joel lopez   July 21, 2013 at 10:20 pm

    You guys don’t know s… about gangs. I’m from central Cali where there’s no such thing as raices where a white a black and Asian are best friends and united but yes there in two different mind colored sets blue and red nortenos and surenos sad story folks I’ve lost more friends and family u couldn’t imagine I grew up going to funerals it’s very sad when ur mom and lil bros and sis are there confused sad just don’t know why ur dead I moved out here 12 yrs ago and Man U people are raices I felt like starting my own gang with a mix of raices and going on riots protesting maybe bigger gangs like Kkk just saying it was bad I never knew what raices was until I saw it here in so cal it made me feel bad for the people that were getting judged by whites to top it off the sheriffs yes fallbrook sherif what’s his name the old fat guy that smokes. Cigars he was behind his people laughing a across the street that is a woop … to all those people imagine what god was saying when this was going on people we need to be more respectful and give each other a chance to breath and enjoy this freedom so kids gangsters whites Asians Mexicans blacks and etc learn how to be HUMANS

  245. xFLzLilMoxo   January 22, 2014 at 3:34 pm


  246. Becky   April 9, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    I really think all gangs need to be put in JAIL…….. They are all trouble makers.


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