UPDATE: Prop BB current vote count shows 9,476 “yes” and 8,553 “no;” final result estimated for next week

As of the end of the business day Thursday, November 15, the San Diego Registrar of Voters reported the ongoing count for Proposition BB is as follows:

Total Number of Precincts: 52

Precincts Reporting: 52 100.0%

Total Votes: 18,029

“Yes” 9,476 (52.56%)

“No” 8,553 (47.44%)

Watch this website for updates as they become available.

(previous story)

UPDATE: Prop BB vote count currently 9,273 in favor (52.41%), 8,420 against (47.59%); results still not final

SAN DIEGO – The latest data available on Proposition BB – the measure regarding unification of Bonsall schools, shows those in favor still leading. This data was reported Thursday morning, Nov. 15:

PROP BB – BONSALL UNION SCHOOL Unification of School Districts

Total Number of Precincts 52

Precincts Reporting 52 100.0%

Total Votes 17,693

YES 9,273 (52.41%)

NO 8,420 (47.59%)

(previous update)

Count for Prop BB continues – currently 8,010 (52.47%) “yes” and 7,256 (47.53%) “no”

SAN DIEGO – The most current figures available from the San Diego Registrar in regards to Proposition BB (unification of Bonsall School District) on Tuesday morning, November 13, are:

Total Number of Precincts: 52

Precincts Reporting: 52 100.0%

Total Votes: 15,266

“YES” 8,010 votes (52.47%)

“NO” 7256 votes (47.53%)

No time estimate has been provided for the finalization of the voting outcome.

(previous update, Friday, Nov. 9)

Prop BB vote counting still underway; results still not final; currently 7,812 “yes” and 7,101 “no”

As of Friday, November 9 at 4:30 p.m., the San Diego Registrar of Voters reflected the following count on the Prop BB (Bonsall Schools Unification) measure. Thousands more ballots have yet to be counted.

“YES” 7,812 votes = 52.38 percent

“NO” 7,101 votes = 47.62 percent

The latest information available from the San Diego Registrar of Voters shows:

PROP BB – BONSALL UNION SCHOOL DISTRICT – Unification of School Districts

Total Number of Precincts: 52

Precincts Reporting: 52 (100.0%)

Total Votes: 14.645

“YES” 7,644 votes 52.20%

“NO” 7,001 votes 47.80%

The Registrar said this morning, Friday, Nov. 9, that there are still thousands of votes remaining that need to be counted regarding this proposition.

Watch this website for final result, when available.

(previous story, Tues., Nov. 6, 2012, 9 p.m.)

Prop BB total votes not tallied; mail-in votes indicate an early lead

Note on San Diego Registrar of Voters website :

The following results bulletin displays the combined mail ballot results from the Fallbrook Union High School District (FUHSD) and Bonsall Unified School District (BUSD) as of 8 p.m. on November 6th.

These results will be updated with precinct results from the entire district no later than Thursday, November 8th.

Beginning November 8th, through the completion of the canvass, this results bulletin will be updated with additional mail ballot results and provisional ballot results. These updates will reflect the results of mail ballots dropped off at polling places and ballots cast provisionally at the polls.

This separate results bulletin is produced as a result of an omission of Proposition BB from ballots in the Fallbrook and Vallecitos areas of the FUHSD. Voters in that portion received a supplemental Proposition BB ballot which must be tabulated separately and combined with votes cast on regular ballots by voters in the Bonsall area of FUHSD.


Unification of School Districts Total

Number of Precincts 52 Precincts Reporting 9 (17.30%)

Total Votes 8181

YES 4258 52.05

NO 3923 47.95

48 Responses to "UPDATE: Prop BB current vote count shows 9,476 “yes” and 8,553 “no;” final result estimated for next week"

  1. wondering   November 7, 2012 at 9:49 am

    When will we know the results?

  2. Pink   November 7, 2012 at 10:46 am

    I just checked another paper’s website and according to their report BB is passing??

  3. wondering part 2   November 7, 2012 at 11:00 am

    maybe I should have read the article…These results will be updated with precinct results from the entire district no later than Thursday, November 8th. 🙂

  4. S.O.S.   November 7, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    Where have I heard this before? Oh yeah it was the platform used by the school board that has run our school system into the ground. BB will pass S.O.S. made sure of it. Guess its time to move.

  5. @SOS   November 7, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    I did not know BUSD was in such bad shape. Our schools are some of the best in the NC area.

  6. S.O.S.   November 7, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Please check your stats and figure out why Bonsall wants their own district SO BADLY. Also understand that when they get their school and those GPA’s leave our district that those scores you speak of will plummet even more causing our small community to be even less appealing to raise good families. This is not the beginning to the end but just another step along the way. It is however wonderful for Bonsall. Congrats to all that had that vision to jump ship when they had a chance, what a great decision for your community and your children.

  7. S.O.S.   November 7, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Is referring to FUHSD NOT BUSD. You are correct about those scores absolutely and they are about to be much better. My hat is off to all of you in the BUSD.

  8. @SOS 2   November 7, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    what school board has run what school system into the ground? all i know as a concerned parent in the bonsall district is that i welcome the choice to send my kids to an academy style small school in our hometown rather than have to send them to fallbrook high. one will likely benefit from that choice directly – one will have to transfer to a school with more rigorous sports options.

  9. S.O.S.   November 7, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    You all in BUSD have saved your kids congrats!!! I’m glad I no longer have kids to put in the FUHSD if I did I would seriously have to consider moving or putting them in private school. Again congrats to BUSD and all of the families in that district for your long hard fight you have won!

  10. Pink   November 7, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    S.O.S do you know something we don’t know? I haven’t seen any final numbers on BB??

  11. Mom of lots   November 7, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    Of the many, many BB signs I saw in Fallbrook, only ONE said "NO" on BB. I find it ironic these were all over Fallbrook. It should have specified "Yes on BB for better schools IN BONSALL". That would have been a more honest rendition.

  12. BeKind   November 7, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    Stop with snide comments, everyone should have options close to where you live. I went to Fallbrook High, 1992 graduate and my kid is at Sullivan. I loved FUHS, 20 yrs ago, at 1,500 students….not loving it at the crowds that are there now, im not sure i want my 14yr old lost in a sea of students

  13. Daddy-O   November 8, 2012 at 7:58 am

    The fact of the matter is Bonsall and its surrounding areas are growing at an exponential rate, whether we like it or not. Many years ago when I told people that I lived in Bonsall, I got a lot of "where the heck is that?". Now it seems that our precious hidden gem is no longer North County’s best kept secret. More planned housing deveolpments down the 76 mean more people. I want my kids to be able to learn in an environment where kids do not grossly outnumber teachers. Bigger classroom sizes are not conducive to quality learning. Another place to have our kids go means a better spreadload of the student-teacher ratio. A lot of the nay-sayers are complaining that the kids wont have a full range of sporting activites available to them at the academy style school…I say "WHO CARES?" Last time I checked, my kids were in school to learn. Thanks to all who supported this prop.

  14. Pragmatist   November 8, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Don’t expect too much from this "academy", particularly in the early years. There will be few, if any, offerings the students wouldn’t have available to them in Fallbrook, with the exception of small class sizes maybe. It won’t be long before what I think will be most of the kids will want to have a high school experience of more than dozens of classmates, and limited opportunities for social growth and development. Yes, school population AND diversity of students help people learn to function and operate their lives successfully past school age years, as we don’t get to segregate ourselves in the work force. Sheltering the kids (white flight) from the diversity of Fallbrook High School may turn out to be counterproductive to the needs of healthy child development. I’m all for Bonsall getting a high school of its own, but it is doing so at the expense of the middle school. This year’s 5th graders will go through Sullivan MS as normal, but this year’s 4th graders will spend the next five years (counting this one) at the elementary school. Think they’ll want to be on the same campus for 9 years??? My son doesn’t…

  15. Mom of lots   November 8, 2012 at 9:59 am

    Not snide, just sick, tired and broke from funding everyone else’s education! There is NO way they are going to not ask for more money to build these highschool(s) in BONSALL. If passed, this prop is going to turn into another prop asking for more funds to "better our schools". Just wait!

  16. Teresa Paul   November 8, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Here is a shocker – Yes it’s a part of the school to educate, but it is also part of a parent job to make sure their kid gets the right education and make sure they are achieving the highest degree of education. Not having money to go into school is also a huge factor. It’s not just a black and white situation.

  17. To Mom of Lots   November 8, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    You’re sick, tired and broke from funding everyone else’s education, huh? Who paid for your education? Did you go to private schools? If you didn’t, the word hypocrite would apply…

  18. did it pass?   November 8, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    Mom of 3

  19. Teacher   November 8, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    White flight? Wouldn’t the new school be just as diverse? The money forthcoming from the state for each student is the same, so I doubt if the class sizes will be smaller. If it’s a charter school, there would be more freedom as to where the money goes. But so many funds are allocated; what you may save on a sports program or transportation may or may not go towards instructors/personnel. And now you’ve created a need for yet another administrator and his/her staff. That’s a big bite out of your budget. Unfortunately, there will be fewer courses offered due to a smaller population. There’s your diversity lost. I hope your children get the foreign language/AP classes/advanced sciences and maths they desire.

  20. resultfinder   November 8, 2012 at 10:10 pm


    looks like it passed.

  21. Cimarron   November 8, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    One of my main gripes with FHS is the administration. I graduated high school in 1977 in a much larger city, but a comparable sized high school (there were 5 high schools in the city at the time). This was well before computers & I think there were 2 women in the office plus 1 vice principal & the principal. If I, or any student, skipped school without an excuse or call from a parent, well before noon on that same day, the school called the parent. I recently got a call from FHS asking why my child wasn’t in school 10 days after! (Kid was in school, but misinformation due to pep rally, etc.). So, God forbid any sex offender nab any of our kids on the way to school, we won’t find out about our missing or just truant kid from FHS.

  22. some facts   November 8, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    pragmatist – the current plan is to make Sullivan 7-12 until a new location is built, likely from developer $ in a few years.

    mom of lots – guess what? if you aren’t in the bonsall district boundaries, you will never have to pay for any bonsall school district bonds! isn’t that nifty? Fallbrook focuses on fallbrook and bonsall focuses on bonsall. yay for localization.

  23. Mom   November 9, 2012 at 8:02 am

    Do we know if it passed

  24. FR86   November 9, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Come on people what is this Florida and hanging Chads.

    It can’t be more than 20k ballots.

    If it passes I hope the administrative overheads are reduced and we end up with a better district……….without the teachers union and the lousey tenured teachers.

  25. Curious   November 9, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    If there are a total of 52 precincts & 100 percent of those precincts have reported, how are there still thousands of ballots left to count? The mail in ballots were reported in the initial story.

  26. SOB   November 9, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    Way to split the resources! Now less for FHS students and even less for Bonsall kids. Good luck with your 3 portables "high school" and 5 man football team lol! Maybe you all can get a team and play Ivy!

  27. Where Am I Wrong?   November 10, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Fallbrook’s high school district has a main campus and two alternative schools. So any resistance to a Bonsall school is all about money. Fallbrook loses money for every student attending a Bonsall high school. The amounts are significant and will certainly affect the bottom line at Fallbrook.

  28. FHS teacher   November 10, 2012 at 10:01 am

    FR86 – FYI: Bonsall has a teacher’s union, tenured teachers as well as a full administration, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Can’t run a district without.

    I hope the Bonsall parents realize that, if their kids want to attend Fallbrook High School (or any high school other than the new Bonsall high school) on an interdistrict transfer (which they will need) that they will be responsible for transporting their kids. FHS does not provide bus transportation for interdistrict transfer kids and will be cutting the Bonsall bus routes to help reduce its expenses.

  29. uncertain   November 11, 2012 at 7:34 am

    For "resultfinder" comment #20

    I followed your link and it showed results of counted ballots as of 1700 (5p.m.) Friday Nov. 9. A closer look will show that 100% of ballots cast at all 52 precincts combined total was only 14913 votes cast. But a look above those numbers indicated that out of a total of 31332 registered voters, cards cast were 17997 for a total % of registered voters casting a vote at 57.46%.

    There is a difference of cast votes(probably mail in votes dropped off at the polls on the election day – as mine was) that have yet to account for those 3,084 votes counted and therefore not factored into the final tally. Since the difference between yes votes (7812) and no votes (7101) is only 711 votes, it is still quite possible that those 3,084 uncounted votes could easily shift the election to "no" when the real final tally is counted. I personally know of 5 no votes that fall into that catagory. So, we will have to let the final total votes be counted before this whole mess is over.

    BTW, I have lived my whole life and raised 4 kids here locally and I am a Bonsall alum along with my eldest daughter. We all attended FUHS and we feel Bonsall will not be better off as a Unified School District (K-12). I would support whatever side wins and I just only wish Bonsall could be in a better position to offer K-12 education. It will mean lots of money, but Bonsall can "inherit" the land off Gird Rd. that was bought and paid for some 40 years ago for the expansion of FUHS with a second campus. This is far from over, the state will have to determine the proposal and if BB does pass, they will factor that into their calculation as to should Bonsall’s proposed plan.

  30. Preston   November 11, 2012 at 7:47 am

    I am sure there were many non-educational reasons some voted for BB, like property values, however for those that voted in favor in hopes of a better education for their child, do you really believe a small school with less diversity will prepare them for college and the real world?

  31. Yes on BB   November 11, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    Yay to racial apartheid and segregation!

  32. Racial Apartheid? White Flight? WTH???   November 12, 2012 at 8:39 am

    Good golly people, all this white flight and racial apartheid nonsense is just that – NONSENSE. Before spreading petty opinions, get some facts:
    FACT 1: Bonsall has significant hispanic & ESL populations.
    FACT 2: Bonsall just received the Golden Bell Award for its Integrated Learning Environment – apparently the admin & teachers know how to teach to the diverse group of kids

    Uncertain – I may be wrong but I believe that the difference in cast votes and votes for BB are simply those people that went out and voted for say, just the president and not the other ballot measures. Tracking the results, there have been more cast votes and more individual responses with each iteration and the 52/48 results have stayed pretty consistent. There are more drop-off ballots to count, for sure, but I don’t think it’s the delta you cite.

    FHS Teacher – yup, time to trim fat. If I were in Fallbrook, I’d look to unify the elementary, vallecitos & high union districts to clean out some administrative overlap and get more $ per kiddo as a unified district. The high school has some beautiful facilities and great programs – it needs to get out of program improvement and be an icon of learning for the community.

    Hopefully FBH will be on a list of considerations for a high school for my athlete as Bonsall probably won’t cut it in the short term from that perspective. But guess what, I would have been looking at other options even if BB didn’t pass

  33. Been there   November 12, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Don’t get in a rush parents. This the second time around trying to get a high school off the ground. The last time it cost the taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars when they attempted a Charter School. At best, there will be some interest, which is generally reserved for those new freshman who have convinced the parent they want to do independent study, or better, " Independent NO study." But on the contrary, consider the worst case scenario. What if 25 average to above average achieving students want to stay at Sullivan Middle School? So now we need a geometry teacher for 3 students, a chemistry teacher for 3, a Spanish teacher for 6, a general math teacher for 5, an honors Social Studies teacher, a general science teacher for 3, a chorus teacher and then several teachers to complete the elective requirements. This curriculum only gets more complex the next year as now we will need an algebra ll, calculus or trig teachers, as well as advanced science intructors. This could be a problem as these professionals will only be teaching one class per day, unless these courses will be contracted out to online corportations.

    Yes, this is the first step to full fledged unification, which is not beyond reason and smaller class size is obvious with a 3 to 1 ratio, but not affordable.

    But passing it off as a better education?
    Interesting to note that this year’s Male student of the year is from Bonsall and the current Valedictorian is also a Sullivan graduate. Bonsall students matriculating to Fallbrook have an exceptionally good rate of academic, athletic and co curricular success. But don’t expect these youngsters or their parents to jump at this second attempt.

  34. Preston   November 13, 2012 at 8:43 am

    You seem young, I’m old. I have changed my mind on many things I believed from when I was young. I raised 5 children, lived in many places and am nearing the end of life now — One thing I know for sure, a hands on experience is most beneficial and it is best to keep an open mind because as you pointed out the world is always changing.
    Best to you and yours, and by the way I voted for BB but not for educational reasons — I believe that a good student can get a great education at any school but the value of property is a perception in the mind of a buyer.

  35. Hope   November 13, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Still hoping for some results…here we are on the morning of the 13th.

  36. lillymar   November 13, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Hey Some Facts, If I live in Bonsall School District and have been paying for the school bond for FHS that is currently included in my property taxes, will I have to pay for both bonds now if BB passes?

    VILLAGE NEWS REPLIES: Property owners currently paying for the Fallbrook High School bond will remain responsible for that, irregardless of the Prop BB situation. The passage of Prop BB does not carry a bond with it, so dual taxes are not possible with this particular election measure. However, if Bonsall pursues a bond and gets it approved by voters at any point in the future, those property owners in the Bonsall district would be subject to BOTH bond payments until one or the other is paid off (satisfied.)
    We clarified that during this process as many readers posed that question to us. —-Debbie Ramsey, Editor

  37. #32 & Preston think alike   November 13, 2012 at 11:18 am

    Yup, Preston – ultimately, I’m all about shaking out as many coins from my property as possible, too. Beyond any government ballot, my kids (and I) are always on learning adventures. Frankly, the unschooling philosophy is intriguing – there are many that say societal indoctrination starts out with those ‘jails for learning’. That said, I haven’t embarked on that adventure as I still think it’s important to understand the rules to play the game of life even if the game itself is totally bogus.

    Thank you for the "young" comment – not sure it applies, however. May your end of life adventure last many, many more years and be kind to you and yours.

  38. Matt   November 15, 2012 at 10:42 am

    I talked to someone at the San Diego Registrar of Voters, and as of today, there are about 200,000 votes yet to be counted. They are able to get to count around 50,000 a day. It takes them a while to verify signatures on the absentee ballots.

  39. FR 86   November 16, 2012 at 10:57 am

    To FHS Teacher.

    I recognize that we need an administrative staff for what would be the new district; we won’t need two. Frankly, we should consider folding the Fallbrook elementary district into the system as well. Why Fallbrook has two school districts has always confounded me.
    So 3 administrative staff’s combined into 1 would be great.

    As far as the union. It continues to perpetuate mediocrity of the teaching staffs at Fallbrook High School as well as a stone around the neck of the district which needs to improve its performance academically. This can only be accomplished by weeding out poor performing teachers and the disctrict handling each teacher on a merit basis. There are good educators at FHS but there are and have been several that should have been let go and replaced.

    The administrators need to be in closer touch with each teacher rather than have to cater to the unions standards and practices.

  40. ERIN   November 16, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    Be careful what you wish for. As soon as this measure passes. BUSD is on the hook from day one. They will need to provide for all four high school classes (frosh-senior). Not implement one class at a time. If they can not meet this requirement. They, BUSD must pay for busing such grade students to FHS. How about any special needs students. Can they provide for them? If not, quess what? They will pay another district that can. At the cost of about 100K a year per student. I hope BUSD and their supporters thought this out. Good luck.

  41. WRONG! Erin   November 17, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Erin – you are flat out wrong. the first freshman class at bonsall would be in 2014 and the other classes will be phased in one year at a time- Sophomore year in 2015, and so on. Don’t spread falsehoods.

  42. Mom of lots   November 17, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    To commenter #17 "To Mom of Lots"- I went to private schools my entire education, including college. My children are all privately homeschooled. Not one cent has been paid for me or any of my children to be "schooled". I have every right to complain that thousands and thousands of dollars are paid per year out of our income to support public schools and we receive ZERO tax write offs for any materials, lessons, etc. we pay to educate our own children.

  43. RIGHT! Erin   November 18, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    If unification passes, ALL high school students who live within the Bonsall district will be Bonsall district’s responsibility as of July 2014, even though they are "phasing in" one class at a time. Any Bonsall student who is not an incoming 9th grader in year 2014 will have to apply for an interdistrict transfer to another district, as well as any of the incoming 9th graders who do not wish to attend the Bonsall "high school".

    Additionally, as of July 2014, the Bonsall district will be responsible for paying for ALL of its Special Education students, no matter what grade they are in. The Bonsall SE kids will also need to apply for interdistrict transfers (unless they are incoming 9th graders in 2014 who want to attend the new Bonsall "high school"). If they cannot find another district that can/will accept them, the Bonsall district will need to provide classes for them. Will the Bonsall district be able to do that? Special Ed funding falls short of the actual costs associated with educating SE kids, including the costs of transportation (bussing) – which is mandated by law, but is not funded by the state. I think Bonsall bit off more than they can chew on this one.

  44. RIGHT! Erin   November 19, 2012 at 7:17 am

    I forgot to mention in my last post that the Bonsall district will inherit ALL of the Pala Indian students as the Pala reservation falls within the Bonsall district. Currently, there are about 75 Pala high school students that attend Fallbrook High School. This will actually be a plus for Fallbrook High School as tensions between the Hispanic students and the Indian students will, basically, go away as the Indian students will no longer be there. Bonsall will have to deal with the problem as Bonsall will also inherit some Hispanic students as well. Bonsall will not be able to "pick and choose" which students can attend its new school – that would be illegal. So, to the Bonsall parents who think their kids will be in a "safer" (ie: "whiter") environment…think again.

  45. Shame Dale   November 19, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Dale Mitchell did nothing to stop this. He’s only better than Tom Anthony because he doesn’t say things to anger people. Instead, he does NOTHING! He’s also the highest paid Superintendent in terms of $$ per Student in all of San Diego County. Thanks for the fight to keep your students Dale….or lack their of.

  46. gah   November 19, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    commenter #44

  47. Preston   November 20, 2012 at 9:02 am

    With all the Prejudice we have for one another on this planet it is amazing we have survived this long. Considering we have created weapons than could wipe us out and we have world leaders that are crazy I think we will have bigger problems to worry about than if some Indian kids will get along with the Hispanic ones. Here is a simple solution for kid’s that cause racial and other serious problems at school, kick him/her out of school. Attending school is a privilege, paid for by everyone, so stop treating it like it is a Right.

  48. To Preston and gah   November 20, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    The impetus for unification came from a faction of Bonsall parents who do not wish for their kids to attend Fallbrook High School due to the perceived "scary elements" that minorities bring to the mix. Not overtly stated, but this is the actual reason they want a "smaller" Bonsall school. They want a "safe" environment – homogeneous, is what they really mean.

    Ask any teacher/administrator at Fallbrook High School and they will tell you that the majority of the fights/issues that occur at the school are between the Indians and the Hispanics. Not so bad at the middle school level, but once they hit high school, these adversarial issues escalate. Fallbrook does expel students on a regular basis. Unfortunately, the vast majority of these kids who are expelled are Hispanic and/or Indian.

    As for the special ed students – there are MANY in the Bonsall district at the high school level who currently attend Fallbrook High School. Gah – highly doubtful that Bonsall currently "takes in tons of special ed student interdistrict transfers". It will be interesting to see where the Bonsall administration comes up with the funds to support all its special ed students at the high school level.


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